we want game back before r155

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Do you want Drakensang become that game that was before r155 ?

  1. Yes , we need to roll back at r154

    72 vote(s)
    75.8%
  2. No , i like more what happen after r155

    23 vote(s)
    24.2%
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  1. Drakah

    Drakah Forum Apprentice

    No need to say anything about r155 if u want for game to come back as it was at r144 ( wisdom , talent tree , pvp tree ) please leave your feedback and vote here !
     
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  2. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    I would like to wait and see. The final 20 knowledge points plus new level 50 gear could make a bit of a difference.
     
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  3. Drakah

    Drakah Forum Apprentice

    what to see ? all chars was destroyed with new talent tree wisdom and pvp tree ! u are forced to pay more to survive to a ghost in m2 ! open your eyse !
     
  4. bendover

    bendover Junior Expert

    I don't see why the knowledge tree is a problem, I love the new way it is designed. You can tweak your attack speed, or damage, or run speed to farm fast in m2, or hp, whatever you want. The problem we feel so weak is that they NERFED OUR CRIT, gave us too little points for the skill tree, nerfed some of our skills (like 160% deadly blow instead of 198% or that DKs lost hp and rage regeneration, plus attack speed), and on top of that, the monsters hit so damn high and they have insane hp in HOD for example. Also another reason why all of us feel weak and that we die so fast is that the block is bugged and it doesn't reduce the damage as it should.

    Also where are those awesome legendaries they talked about? with over 300 crit lines, to compensate for all these nerfs. I haven't seen any good crit item yet and neither have most of the players (if anyone has found such items, please share some pics).

    So why is the knowledge tree the problem? it's really cool the way they designed it because now you have a lot more options in pve. For pvp I can't say since I don't pvp that much. I only did pvp before because I was forced in order to get the pve abilities. But after I got them I stopped playing pvp. One thing I hate in pvp now is that you get 1 shotted most of the time. In pvp everyone should have much less dmg. Or at least have the same dmg, but increase everyone's hp 5 times. I got hit yesterday with 10k fireballs by mages with 2h weapons.

    A also like the way the skill tree is designed and if we had more points it would be perfect. Now you don't have to choose between 2 options. For example before, rangers had to choose between deadly blow and wolves regeneration. As much as I love to regenerate with the wolves (or tree), I couldn't have chosen that skill because the deadly blow is much more important and a must in any ranger's arsenal. But now I can choose both deadly blow AND to regenerate with wolves which is awesome.

    Give us good items with nice crit lines, over 300 on them, this will fix the crit problem. And reduce the dmg and hp of the mobs in PW, nobody is going to play when the odds are so unfair stacked against us.
     
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  5. MegaNuker

    MegaNuker Forum Ambassador

    It is kinda growing on me. I think the blocks need to be fixed but other than that I out do my crit with my mage and my mech can solo map 2 with the greatest of ease. The double turrets are the best thing since sliced bread. I do wish they had 2 presets for the knowledge tree. Hey here is an idea put clickers like the essence toggle for the knowledge and exp tree skills. Since pvp can not change while your pvp would be a waste.

    R1-R154 you had to pvp for Cynite Shield I really needed that but now I do not need to pvp Nuff said. I hate killing people.
     
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  6. Th~rock

    Th~rock Forum Apprentice

    Maybe you should get better gear at your lvl it might help you out more.
     
  7. Dragonnns

    Dragonnns Count Count

    I have found that some of my characters got stronger, some got weaker. Only one is (was) an end character (and only recently at that) so I may not have enough info to know whether the change was good or bad for those long time players. I know for me that it meant I needed to tweak the Knowledge/Wisdom skills a bit to correct for areas where my equipment made me weaker. Once I figured out what was needed, I find I'm able to kill most things on my level or 1-2 higher.

    I think part of the problem/issue/frustration is that those who used to rely on a high critical hit rate no longer have that. If the CHR was high, then the base hit damage could be lower. This means that the equipment on the toon no longer supplies the same amount of damage as was expected.

    My character with the highest CHR was only about 55% so the nerf to 22% wasn't a huge difference. If I went from close to 100% (someone posted that not too long ago) and now I went down to 50%, that would be a difference one would seriously notice.

    While not everything is perfect, I can handle the change and work with it.

    I DO think that those with items which had the glyphs removed from the item and not put back into inventory should have those glyphs replaced. Those players spent a lot of time and energy (or andermant/$$) to put those glyphs into an item. I've lost some glyphs but not anything like some others have. I am hoping that BigPoint corrects this in an upcoming release.
     
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  8. Shiladitya

    Shiladitya Padavan

    get your lvl47- 48 marshal dks into pvp and fight a lvl43-44 seasoned legionnaire sw on 2h who is a free player and you will know why the new system has ruined the definition of the word balance. This is taking into account hotfix #2. I will see how much DSO gives coppers in exchange for the gold the players are demanding and how many of us beggars(players) will be satisfied with it.
     
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  9. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    Man, I had 1.8k dmg at 67% crit. Now I have 3.3k at 32%, 1 handed. It makes no difference. Now we have much more dps, and that is an issue. Crit is not the worst thing of the release, even though they failed to fix low-lvl left side items issue as those are still better than lvl50 junk.

    Mobs are broken. Regular maps are a play with one skill, chain lighting. MM is impossible in whatever setup. For an end game player. Can't imagine f2p folks doing solo q3))))
     
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  10. draco994

    draco994 Active Author

    Ranger is class is ok but same wont help DK, so Dk needs more change, they are broken for sure. present patch gave then approx 600 hp -1100 hp (varies) but what they needs is survival equation. not one hit equation, still that is not equal and balanced. more... the talent points should be 100 and not 50. BP can take 50 less, but need 100 or lvl expansion is just useless and need one or two slots hot keys for more skills in emergency to be used.
     
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  11. fuzball15

    fuzball15 Someday Author

    Hi guys im a 3 year old dk i play about 6 hr a day until this reliese i was a end game player and only payed for premium now i agree with all the comments here and this is what i have to say. My dk is now total rubbish and all i have heard is that we are listening to the players more rubbish if that was the case why is nothing done to fix the total mess maid of this class. this is about my 6 post in 3 years and i know you want more people to voice there concers so you can count me in as one of the leavers of this game if nothing is fixed in the next month thanks for you time.
     
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  12. hempthegreen

    hempthegreen Advanced

    game blows now, Very clear they designed the new content for premuim users - Greed is what drakensang turned into
     
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  13. bloodyneo

    bloodyneo Forum Master

    i want my glyphs back ...i payed real money for my royal onixes and they EDIT the critical hit value ...its a fraud from EDIT
    we should all ask for refund our money back
     
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  14. hempthegreen

    hempthegreen Advanced

    Oh have bad news support wont help you.... yes game is a scam more a less. I was taken gems out of gear in the bank to combine and i clicked on "5th gem slot for 2400anderment" ON MISTEAK! I sent a ticket into support asking if they can close the gem slot and refund my anderment... NOPE just have to be careful next time... Here is funny thing I deleted a character not thinking a while back , sent a ticket in explained and wouldnt you know it , the character was fully restored full gold, Gear, essence .

    --MERGED--

    Ive been here since 2011, My main character(s) are DKs . Ive been playing every single day hours vary 2-20+ hrs lol I was a diehard. I loved the game so much and loved meeting new english speaking players on Agathon I became a guild leader and loved it, Loved my guild and members! Hands down after r155 my game time dropped off the face of the earth. im very lucky to spend maybe 4 hours a day on drakensang which is very poor . The fun has dropped so much, game has shifted towards cash any one with a half a brain can see that. We were promised many things and had to wait very very long for the releases to come and even then Bugs on top of bugs. then hotfixes to fix old bugs create new bugs. Sorry Design team but if your aiming for more cash income from the game please make it a pay worthy game. This game just makes me sad these days. all that invested time for what? atleast i never spent a dime :p

    Players are slowly if not already jumping off the drakensang ship heading to other games. When they build new content, do they test with reds? Im sure they have massive anderment into their characters+ essence ... The point here is over the years The game shifted for a p2p with horrible gameplay. yes you can still not spend a dime and play but your lucky to not smash your pc with in an hour play lol.

    Ive met some very amazing people here in this game, Some are now real life friends so i am greatful for that.

    I may sell my account soon and never look back ... All because of release 155.

    I agree that the infinte HP regen (if you have 40fame) in pvp was bit overkill... But to completely nef the regen in pve Thats just great!
     
    Last edited by moderator: Sep 12, 2015
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  15. kama5utra

    kama5utra Someday Author

    no we dont want r154 back. We want noob dks as cannon fodder... we want no regen no rage...
     
  16. hempthegreen

    hempthegreen Advanced

    Ok so ... its ok for a ranger to armor break and hit over 12k with their new lv 50 skill in pvp? vs a dk (factory class build is to tank) gets smoked in very few hits or 1shot from a distance?
     
  17. jmie88

    jmie88 Someday Author

    R155 is better guys.. you just have to face the fact that we lose something and gain something..

    R155 is good if they return our crits before and the immunity to stuns etc. (for all clases)
     
  18. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    If the grandma was a male she would have been grandpa.
     
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  19. jmie88

    jmie88 Someday Author

    english please
     
  20. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    As requested
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