Feedback [PVP] Value of Supportive Skills

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  1. Vanaduke

    Vanaduke Forum Apprentice

    Value of Supportive Skills (Stuns, Freezing or any form of Interrupting Skills) is never expounded yet seemingly overwhelms the value of kills, defeat and damage dealt.

    Example given. (I placed 3rd-Red Group)
    Observable intervals between our contributions to our team and of the hostile group.

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    I do understand that Capturing a Flag predominates; but shouldnt Kill-factor gauges honour points acquired atop Death-Damage Dealt and rest of the given factors? Spellweavers are notable for the variation of their skills amongst the Classes: Insta-freeze/stun and Steal-Kill.

    Or provide further information on how the system of honour distribution actually works.
    (eg. Percentage of Honour reduction on the losing team; Percentage of Honour Increase on the winning team-I've seen Players on the winning team exceeding Honour Points against members of the defeated group despite noticeable Team Contribution)
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    Trivia: Commander Emberwing (of Tegan's Fotress) deals more damage than End-boss Frostclaw.

    Also, or as everyone knows--the event sucks. Unfair, stupid, you name it.
     
  2. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    SW's are always getting most of the honor points ... because their skills.
     
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  3. Vanaduke

    Vanaduke Forum Apprentice

    Also, dwarves are inefficient in CTF. Their only use is capturing the flag, failed to do so guarantees imminent death.
     
  4. -HARRA81-

    -HARRA81- Forum Mogul

    That's why you have to work as a team. Dwarfs aren't ineffective. You just need a players who understand the game mechanism.
     
  5. Vanaduke

    Vanaduke Forum Apprentice

    I do look out for the team but not everyone plays with the team. Most leave dwarves do their business until they hold the flag.

    Let's get back to the topic since Mods in this forums have low-tolerance with off-topic comments and yet they wonder why majority of the forum community loathes them.
     
  6. -HARRA81-

    -HARRA81- Forum Mogul

    That doesn't mean that the class is ineffective. Only players with their character and low understanding and experience are ineffective.
     
  7. Vanaduke

    Vanaduke Forum Apprentice

    I see you failed to examine dwarves running in CTF, they refrain from engaging in open combat nor in 1v1 situations and are only after/defending the flag. Nothing much.

    Again, enough with the dwarves. Those inconsiderate fiends might show up and lock the thread.
     
  8. -HARRA81-

    -HARRA81- Forum Mogul

    You are saying that in 5vs5 dwarfs are ineffective because their "only" skill of returning the flag/ defending. Well that skill just happen to be the best for 5vs5 lol. I think I know well enough the dwarf class to have a different opinion than yours.
    Also I got a few thousand 5vs5 matches so I'm not born yesterday hehehe :D Do you have end game character ?
     
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2015
  9. Vanaduke

    Vanaduke Forum Apprentice

    *Gives off a deep sigh*
     
  10. -HARRA81-

    -HARRA81- Forum Mogul

  11. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    I dont know, I'm racking up a lot of points and kills in 5v5 using double mech turrets and the timer decrease talent, which allows me to spam heavy shot, the rocket and the area affect shrapnel shot. I don't have pvp level 35 yet but i should be there soon.
     
  12. Vanaduke

    Vanaduke Forum Apprentice

    None taken since I've drove the car much longer than you did. I just didnt notice the side mirror wasnt crooked till I've passed the Highway all along. I appreciate your naive idealism that somehow you knew better than I do, even at metaphors. *Chuckles*

    I would appreciate an evidence to support the claim. Most Dwarves in Tegan, or as far as ive seen are elusive and squishy. No offense.
     
  13. -HARRA81-

    -HARRA81- Forum Mogul

    There are Grand Marshall Dwarf and Field Marshall Dwarfs in Agathon and I bet there are lot of Marshalls too.
    Wich is alone is saying that it's inst ineffective class at all, especially in 5vs5. Talking about 1vs1 or 3vs3... that's a another story.
    But yeah, if you don't play support class with supporting but you are going to full DPS it might not work as well...
    You would wonder how much you can actually do damage with dwarf with P2W equipment.
     
  14. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    The actual breakdown of points given is a proprietary secret, but it is obvious there are points assigned for pvp in several different areas then further modified by what your rank was on each. Kills for example, you get points for kills then further points for whether you were first, second, third, etc on kills. Same for deaths, total damage, flags, CC, and win or loss. Then there are the achievements that add to total like not dying at all, getting all three flags etc, then mentor and premium bonuses.

    For 5v5, kills, total damage and flags seem to be the biggest point carriers.
     
  15. Darwarren

    Darwarren Count Count

    If you use some algebra and data analysis, you can get a good approximation of what works for you. Just save the data from a few games, so you can use some variables = 0. Isolate, simplify, and solve. It took 3 good score sets to work it for me.

    At the time a win in 5v5 was worth about 100, a capture was worth about 400, damage was worth about 1/100 each, and contributions were worth about 1 each. That was more than a year ago, and it's probably different now, but it took me from Centurion to Marshall.
     
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2015
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